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EV Cost to Drive #2: Repairs & Maintenance

As a new first-time owner of an electric vehicle, I thought it would be helpful to do a series of posts on some of the questions I had getting my first EV, a 2016 Chevy Spark EV, in January 2019.


In our first installment, we looked at the expense of actually purchasing a vehicle. This time we’ll talk repairs and maintenance.

There are many components in a gas powered vehicle that an EV simply doesn’t have, and therefore, don’t need to be repaired or replaced. It has no motor oil, no spark plugs, no radiator fluid, belts, hoses or other similar parts that wear out over time. Of course, an EV still has tires and brakes, even those can wear out with far less frequency.

Let’s discuss brakes as an example. All hybrids and EVs have what’s called regenerative braking, which means when you take your foot off the gas, the car uses magnetic power to slow the car down. This returns some of that kinetic energy back into your battery. As a result, your brake pads are not used, and tend to last a lot longer! I’ve heard reports of hybrids going 150k miles before new brakes are needed.

And EVs simply have fewer moving parts to break or wear out. Tesla brags their drive train has a total of 12 moving parts! By comparison, gas engines have literally hundreds or even thousands of parts in the drive train alone.

As an example, I recently got a reminder email from Chevy about my maintenance checkup. The list of items to check consisted of rotating tires, checking my wipers and filling my washer fluid. That’s it! Now multiply those savings over 5, 10 years or more.

Of course, the #1 concern of potential EV buyers concerns the battery, as in how long will it last? While every manufacturer makes a few lemons from time to time, there have been isolated instances of excessive battery performance degradation. Major manufacturers have acknowledged this apprehension, and have re-written vehicle warranties to include coverage for battery performance. But as a whole, the vast majority of vehicle batteries are expected to last well over 10 years.

Next we’ll discuss the day-to-day cost of driving an EV such as fuel (if you can call it that) and insurance.

How long does an EV battery last?

One of the major questions for new potential EV buyers is, “How long does the battery last?” And it’s a natural concern. After all the battery is the most expensive single part on an EV.

Due to the fact that mass produced EVs are still a relatively new phenomenon, research on the long term life of a battery is not fully clear. However, research is beginning to come in – and the results so far have been surprisingly positive.

In this article from GreenCarReports, Nissan executives have discussed their efforts to repurpose old Leaf batteries. They commented that the batteries are outlasting the vehicles themselves! Read on:

https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1123670_nissan-leaf-batteries-are-lasting-a-very-long-time

EV Cost to Drive #1: Purchase price

As a new first-time owner of an electric vehicle, I thought it would be helpful to do a series of posts on some of the questions I had getting my first EV, a 2016 Chevy Spark EV, in January 2019.


I get a lot of questions about driving an electric vehicle. People are interested, but just not sure about the day-to-day implications of the differences between gas powered vehicles and an EV.

The most common question I get is: “How much does it cost to drive an EV? Isn’t it more expensive?” We’re gonna break this one down over multiple posts. Let’s start off with the cost of actually purchasing a vehicle.

When most people ask about the expense of driving an EV, they are typically asking how much they cost to purchase. Teslas are the most well-known brand, and since they are a luxury vehicle – with the price to match – the automatica assumption is that all EVs are too expensive for most people. And without a doubt, new EVs come at a premium. Most new models price around $30k and up. Like most people I was on a budget, and a new Tesla – or any other new EV – was just too expensive. In my research, what I discovered was the “dirty little secret” very few people are talking about. It’s called buying a used EV.

By buying used versus new, you let the original owner pay the so-called “electric premium!” This is because the resale value of EVs often plummet on the used market (Teslas excluded). First, this is because most EV buyers are enthusiasts and want to get the “next new thing.” They often lease the vehicles for 3 years, then trade it in for the newest model.

Second, because EVs are relatively new, buyers are often apprehensive about a used model’s battery life. Of course that is a real issue, and can vary widely for many reasons. In the majority of cases, EV batteries have been shown to last 8 to 10 years or more. Most manufacturers are aware of this issue and offer warranties on battery life. Personally, I bought a Certified Pre Owned (CPO), because it added an extended warranty that includes the battery. (There’s also tests the dealer can perform on the battery to get an idea of the battery capacity. Insist on it when you’re car shopping.)

To give you an idea of the kind of depreciation you can expect, my Spark sold for about $26k new; as a three year old car, it’s common to see them as low as $8000, but typical is anywhere between $9-12k. While this kind of depreciation is bad if you’re the new car buyer, this makes for a tremendous value for a used car buyer. Obviously I was sold!

Next we’ll talk about the expense of things like repairs and maintenance.

What is a Compliance Vehicle?

In the discussion about electric vehicles, there’s a term that creates a lot of confusion for someone just learning about them. Certain EV models like the Chevrolet Spark EV, Ford Focus EV, Fiat 500e, Honda Fit EV and Toyota RAV4 EV are referred to as “compliance cars.” Exactly what does that mean?

The term compliance car comes from vehicle emissions mandates passed in certain states – namely California, Oregon and Maryland, though others are considering similar legislation. Laws in these states require vehicle manufacturers to sell a certain percentage of vehicles that are classified as zero emissions vehicles – basically, they don’t pollute the air at all. If a manufacturer cannot reach the state’s mandate for such vehicles, they are not allowed to sell vehicles OF ANY TYPE in that state.

So, in order to be compliant with the state’s emissions laws, some major manufacturers have chosen to create one or more electric vehicle models that are sold in those states only, in order to be able to sell all their other gas-powered models. Often the vehicles are electric versions of a gas-powered model they already sell, which is true in the case of both the Spark EV and the 500e.

The president of Fiat famously asked consumers in a press conference to simply not buy the Fiat 500e, as he claimed the company loses about $14,000 per vehicle sold. In fact, many companies claim they lose money on these models, but they do so I order to keep selling all of their vehicles in those areas.

(Interestingly, I’ve read reviews of the electric and gas versions of the Chevy Spark and Fiat 500. In both cases, the electric version was rated significantly higher than the gas-powered versions!)

Here’s a story by ThoughtCo, that explains it in a bit more detail:
https://www.thoughtco.com/what-is-a-compliance-car-85648

What is an EV?

There’s a lot of confusion as to what an EV – an electric vehicle – really is. In fact, there’s a whole combination of different vehicles on the road which qualify as an electric vehicle, at least in part. Let’s spell it out in more detail.

In the purest definition, an electric vehicle is any vehicle which uses some form of electric motor to propel the vehicle forward. So that includes both hybrids and fully electric vehicles (sometimes called battery electric or BEV’s). Let’s outline some of the differences.

Next LVEVA General Meeting on Saturday, August 10th at Gateway Classic Cars Showroom from 10 AM to Noon

The next general meeting of the Las Vegas Electric Vehicle Association will be on Saturday, August 10th, from 10 AM to noon at Gateway Classic Cars Las Vegas showroom, located at 6580 S. Lindell Road, Suite 300, Las Vegas, NV 89118.

Directions: Exit Hwy 215 at Jones Avenue, head north to Sunset, then east to S. Lindell Road. Cross streets are West Sunset Road and South Lindell Road.

Agenda:

  1. Notes and updates from LVEVA Board of Directors Meeting on 7/13/2019.
  2. Tour of classic and exotic cars within Gateway Classic Cars showroom.
  3. Planning for National Drive Electric Week 2019 that is being rescheduled for Springs Preserve location.
  4. General Discussion

Please come and join us!

NV Energy Ride ‘n Drive EVent for Electric Cars on May 25, 2019

An Electric Car Guest Drive EVent was staged at the NV Energy campus in Las Vegas on May 25th at 6226 W. Sahara in Las Vegas.

Pre-registered attendees could choose tickets to test drive two electric cars during the day, from a variety of currently available plug-in hybrid and battery-powered electric cars on the market.

LVEVA President Lloyd Reece was one of the “coaches” during the event, who rode along in the passenger seat of the test-drive vehicles. He helped new drivers learn about the Tesla Model 3 , the Chevrolet Volt, and Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV.

Highlights from LVEVA General Meeting at SYN Shop Hackerspace on May 11, 2019

The May monthly meeting of the Las Vegas Electric Vehicle Association was staged on Saturday, May 11, 2019 from 10 AM to Noon at the SYN Shop Hackerspace in Henderson, near the Valley Auto Mall, at 1075 American Pacific, Suite C, Henderson, NV 89074. www.synshop.org

LVEVA Meeting Agenda: